"The most provocative ad I ever did, or the most provocative ad I ever got past my creative director? They're definitely two very different things. I mean, I'll try just about anything. You start really shocking, and then tone it down until they accept it. I did one for a kind of carpeting; the ad basically implied -- okay, it didn't imply, it kinda screamed out -- that these two people, you can imagine whoever they are, whoever you want, were so overcome by passion for their new carpet that they had sex right there and then. Right on the carpet. It went over pretty well. Between you and me, though, it was an ugly carpet. Not exactly an aphrodisiac."

He pulls his coat a little tighter around him, shivering slightly. His clothes are always too damn big, and that doesn't make for the most cozy of garments in weather like this. He'll be glad when they can get inside.

"Anyway. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has that feeling about something. Your pies are very good. I can tell you like making them."